The Undead and the Dying

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Discussion Why do the forsaken want to raise more undead? Aren't they supposed to be suffering of the undead curse as opposed to dying a peaceful death?

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The true story was quite different. Sylvanas was not killed, but rather captured.

Barely clinging to life, Sylvanas Windrunner was brought before Arthas. She protested, saying she deserved a clean death, but Arthas, having had to fight her every step of the way, responded by telling her after what she had put him through, the last thing he would give her was the peace of death. Also when the dread lords asked her about relationship to Arthas she says:. I have my own reasons for seeking vengeance.

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Arthas murdered my people and turned me into this.. Everything says that being undead is a "suffering". So why exactly is Sylvannas trying to turn more people into undead, "monstrosities" as she said? This short story covers why new forsaken are being raised as of cata it also explains her Val'kyr - Sylvanas has seen what happens to her when she finally dies and isnt too keen on it. I've walked the realms of the dead. I have seen the infinite dark. Could possibly frighten me.

The army of undead that surrounded and protected the Dark Lady was still hers, body and soul. But they were no longer arrows in her quiver, not anymore. They were a bulwark against the infinite. They were to be used wisely, and no fool orc would squander them while she still walked the world of the living.

Sylvania clearly thinks this new perspective on her forsaken is somehow But she is still equating the unlives of thousands millions? They're not my weapon anymore guys so don't use them as cannon fodder. They're my personal armor now! While it would make sense, gameplay wise, there still needed a lore reason for new undead players to show up. Hence why Sylvanas is then completely fine with raising the dead to bolster her numbers. She's a little unhinged and her priorities re: I have a feeling that if anything will be her undoing, it will be the Val'kyr borne Forsaken, who don't have to have that fierce loyalty the plague borne do, since they weren't freed.

Could be interesting when the numbers shift. That's because Sylvanas was originally driven by her need for vengeance against Arthas. She took her role as the Queen of the Forsaken seriously to amass an army of followers that would assist her on this path. When she failed to kill herself after Arthas was killed because of the Valkyrie, she found new purpose. Pride in what she was and in her people. That sense of pride was preached towards existing forsaken and all newly ressurected forsaken. Most of them come to terms with it. Undeath is better than death. Some of them take it as a sign of power or redemption.

They've grown into a formidable force over the years and there really is no reason for them to stop now. I feel like most of them have come to terms with it.

It's only at the start do you really see quest mobs that are having trouble accepting what they are now. Even though there are ghosts and spirits in WoW, there doesn't really seem to be a concept of a heaven or a hell. Maybe the undead would rather be up walking around with a free will, as opposed to rotting in the ground.

Once they join the club, it'd be hard to go back to the grave unless you knew you were actually going somewhere. When the average living being dies, they go to the Shadowlands. This is the place you're in when you die in WoW and where the Spirit Healers resurrect you from. Certain Druids and other nature affiliated creatures can possibly go to the Emerald Dream when they die, which is a lush paradise that is a carbon copy of Azeroth, minus the civilisation bit. The Vrykul also have their own hell - Helheim. For completeness sake, when demons die they reform in the Twisting Nether and generally stay there a while biding their strength before they can reach out to our universe again.

I think that's about the extent of the afterlife possibilities in WoW, but if I've missed any I'd love to hear them! The amount of non-necromantic resurrection that goes on in the WoW universe is actually infinitesimally small. The only accounts I can think of are Aegwynn resurrecting her son which took a huge amount of time and energy, and the resurrection of the player characters by Tirion Fordring at the end of the Lich King fight, which involved divine intervention.

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The ease of resurrection for player characters is purely for game-play purposes, lore-wise it's incredibly difficult and rare. I don't actually think this is canon in the lore that the players got resurrected. Per the Sylvannas short story:. His broken armor lay in pieces on the white peak before his throne, surrounded with blackened cakes of frozen gore, the remains of those who had finally brought him to his knees. So it sounds like lore-wise the player characters died.

This makes sense since we have other examples of raid bosses that in the lore killed large portions of the raid even though gameplay-wise everyone survives Illidan being the most recent example. But your correct, true resurrections are extremely rare and require a lot of time and energy. There is some lore to support it, for example the spirit healers are canon, a group of rogue Valkyr that split from the rest a long time ago though they are much rarer than in-game.

And powerful priests are capable of resurrection in some circumstances, for example Whitemane in SM was capable of bringing herself back from the dead. In Legions, Priests also res someone as part of their quest-line, though the soul is still present in the hands of a demon so it likely hadn't moved onto the shadowlands by then. I believe you're entirely right!

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There's another aspect that no one yet mentioned: When someone dies, people never, never think "well, okay, we'll rez him tomorrow". They think of death as something that is final, definitive, permanent.

Outnumbered, the player engaged in a stirring parkour sequence: Dying Light 2 goes beyond its parkour action with an emphasis on player agency. In true role-playing fashion, players will mold the story by choosing to side with certain factions. Over time, those decisions will impact the development of the entire city. Side with the Peacekeepers by knocking off the emissary controlling the water tower, for instance, and the city will eventually thrive as the water flows freely. The player benefits as well, able to heal up by taking a sip from wells readily available around town.

The Peacekeepers are authoritarians, punishing civilians for stepping out of line, hanging suspected thieves without trial and generally terrorizing the populace. With an iron grip on the tower, the gang can charge steep prices for access to water. The city becomes significantly less pleasant as survivors suffer. As a partner in the water trade, the player earns a steady income that grants access to powerful weapons hawked at black markets cropping up around town.

According to the developers, players will make loads of important decisions over the course of the game that will shape the world and the final outcome.

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